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Worst "Christian Dating Advice" I Ever Fell For: I Survived I Kissed Dating Goodbye Joshua Harris
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View all 8 comments. Mar 13, Allison rated it it was amazing Shelves: owndevotionallife-how-to. I am a 17 year old christian teenage girl who has lived her relationship life according to this book and has no regrets. I have healthy friendships with a lot of guys but-amazingly enough-not a single boyfriend.
And my life has been just fine for it. Actually, my life has been great. This has worked just fine for all the I am a 17 year old christian teenage girl who has lived her relationship life according to this book and has no regrets.
This has worked just fine for all the people around me most singles in my church don't practice dating eitherand there has been no lack of wonderful marriages. I don't date, but that doesn't mean I've thrown away marriage. I'm just using my time to serve God instead of committing my heart to a boyfriend right now.
Which is the whole point of the book. It is actually a fun book, and very easy to read. Josh is not condemning, but he does let people know that there are other options out there besides dating. View all 9 comments. Oct 07, Rock Rockwell rated it really liked it Shelves: counselingsexualityteens.
I actually kissed dating goodbye after I got married except the infrequent times my wife and I can leave our kids at home and go out for a quick dinner. Some will cringe in reading this ideology for the first time, but when contimplating how to protect your own holiness and the purity of others, it makes more sense. Accountability and NOT acting on I actually kissed dating goodbye after I got married except the infrequent times my wife and I can leave our kids at home and go out for a quick dinner.
Accountability and NOT acting on feelings or immature desires is beneficial in ANY relationship, particularly towards the opposite sex. This is a practical book to present and different approach to developing godly relationships that may lead to marriage based on Scriptural truths.
It is like the alcoholic stating that Jesus drank wine, Paul told Timothy to take a little wine for his ailments, and the Passover is warrant to drink alcohol even though it will hurt them as an alcholic. View 1 comment. Jan 19, Paul, rated it did not like it. Tired of the game? Kiss dating goodbye. Dating: Isn't there a better way?
I Kissed Dating Goodbye suggests there is. Reorder your romantic life in the light of God's Word and find more fulfillment than a date could ever give a life of sincere love, true purity, and purposeful singleness. Joshua Harris writes pretty well, and he makes several good points in this book.
Reorder your romantic life in the light of God's Word and find more fulfillment than a date could ever give - a life of sincere love, true purity, and purposeful singleness. When he talks about God's view on love, Harris is right on the money. Love is not just a feeling. It is not a dominating force that overwhelms our ability to follow God. Unfortunately, Harris' radical new take on dating is really old-fashioned Pharisaical law.
Harris has rightly shown some problems with our culture's view of dating, but his own system, while claiming to be biblical, reminds me very much of the Pharisees practice of writing their own laws to make sure that their fellow Jews wouldn't break God's laws. And we know how Jesus felt about that! You might be wondering what I mean when I say that Harris has replaced a defective system with his own set of rules, instead of following God's laws.
Pharisee-ism can be a very subtle thing. So let me give a very clear example. One of the key reasons Harris gives for avoiding dating is because it does not live up to God's standards for love as set out in 1 Corinthians Dating is short-term, it can be self-centered, and it can lead someone to fall away from God. Harris' solution is to avoid committing to one person until you are ready to marry.
Is that a biblical perspective on love? It is talking about the love that we are supposed to have for all believers all the time! Now, can dating be self-centered? Of course it can. Can dating lead you to care too much about the short-term? Can dating cause someone to fall away from God? Can dating lead to prematurely intimate physical relationships?
No doubt. But it doesn't have to do any of these things. Harris proposes his own solution, courtship, which is no more biblical than dating. There isn't really any advice on dating or courting in the Bible because that was not a very big part of that culture. Marriages were mostly arranged affairs that were as much about economics and social status as love. So, there is really no such thing as "biblical" courtship or dating or whatever else. There are just decisions that believers need to make about how they are going to follow God in their situation.
So, I liked this book for some of its criticisms of our culture. I just don't think the prescription is any better than the disease. View all 5 comments. Jun 10, Christopher rated it did not like it Shelves: christian-living. I was forced to read this book by the female youth leader in a youth group I was a part of, along with all the other guys.
Some of us kissed dating goodbye, others of us kissed youth group goodbye. Feb 21, Harman rated it it was ok.
While the book is well-written and the ideas are well-expressed and thought out, Harris' theories just don't play well in a complex world filled with people.
There is no set of rules or philosophies that one can apply to Christian premarital romance nor any kind of romance, nor any kind of relationship, for that matterand I believe that, unfortunately, Harris' ideas are a contribution to a philosophy that has caused much pain and cynicism in young single Christian circles I can say this While the book is well-written and the ideas are well-expressed and thought out, Harris' theories just don't play well in a complex world filled with people.
There is no set of rules or philosophies that one can apply to Christian premarital romance nor any kind of romance, nor any kind of relationship, for that matterand I believe that, unfortunately, Harris' ideas are a contribution to a philosophy that has caused much pain and cynicism in young single Christian circles I can say this from experience.
In concurrence with Harris' ideas, many of our parents, with the best intentions, told us pubescent, hormonal Christians that we should wait for "God to bring the right one"; that "God has designed someone just for you". Harris has taken this idea and designed a dating paradigm that fosters to it, gearing up singles to pursue only that one, special, unique someone that God has made just for them. What I mean to say is, we know what we want and we expect God to get us there without any effort on our part.
Having always been told to wait for God to bring this ominous "One" to us, to kiss dating goodbye, and that God has sculpted said "One" just for us, we have this hopelessly naive and incorrect idea that if we sit around, living our romance-free and happy lives which, let's be honest, is unfortunately a bit of an oxymoron in our cultureGod is going to make romance happen to us and another unsuspecting, beautiful, godly, pure individual.
The repercussions of this are the cause of constant frustration in both sexes. I've heard so many of my girl friends complain about this guy that they like so much, who they happen to know likes them, with whom she hangs out all the time often one-on-one, over coffee and this guy just won't ask her out, won't pursue her openly, won't lay his cards on the table and make himself vulnerable.
Being a guy, and a guy that's been guilty of this, I can tell you that it's largely due to the aforementioned paradigm.
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Asking a girl out is terrifying, even if you know she'll say yes; vulnerability is petrifying. This is why the unconscious assumption that God will "bring the right person" to us is so comfortable. It requires no risk. God is going to do all the work for us. That's why we hang out with that girl we love for hours on end, always alluding to our feelings for her but never outright pursuing her, waiting for God to make it happen.
It's comfortable, it's safe, and then you end up with mountains of sexual tension that haven't been expressed and eventually that coffee date becomes a make-out session without any pretext, without definitions, which leads to crossed boundaries and baggage. Fortunately I've been able to avoid this, but I've seen it far too many times for me to dismiss it as anything less than a pattern. Alternately, I've heard many guys, myself included, complain about girls that simply will not say yes to a date.
Because of our paradigm, those of us guys that have already gone through the frustrations of "kissing dating goodbye", realized that the difference between dating and Harris' ideas are simply in semantics, and have moved on to dating have found that many amazing, beautiful and godly girls will say no to a date with an amazing, godly man not because she's not attracted to him or not interested, but because she can't see herself marrying him.
There's an expectation that, because God has this perfect man made for them, as soon as she sees him she'll be hopelessly in love and there won't even need to be a first date. A date, or courtship, or whatever you want to call it, is the context in which you get to know the other in order to determine whether you could marry that person. You can't determine that in day-to-day life.
But, at the same time, girls expect us to pursue them, but not in a dating context because of the negative stigma given to that construct. Us guys are given so many mixed signals, because we're expected to pursue the girl like Christ pursues the Church thanks, Francine Rivers, for giving every Christian woman the expectation that a good Christian man will be a cookie cut-out from Redeeming Lovebut then again, if we do any kind of pursuing and the girl isn't already convinced that she could marry the guy, then we get shot down.
So we are forced into the exact same context mentioned above, hanging out with the girl we like, allowing her to get to know us in a nonromantic context so that she can determine whether she could marry us again, you can't determine how romantically compatible you are with someone in a nonromantic context. So as the two hang out more and more, and the girl still comes no closer to determining marriageability, emotions and sexual tension are still on the rise, and the same consequence mentioned above takes place.
All this being said, it's no wonder that young, single Christians are among the most romantically cynical beings I've ever met - and I am often guilty of this as well.
I'm not saying that Joshua Harris is solely to blame, but I do believe that his books and ideology are a manifestation of this vague, misleading and tragic dating philosophy that is fostering so many embittered cynics in young Christian circles.
The Church needs to begin addressing this issue, and realizing that there is no clean-cut solution and set of rules to apply to the grey area of romance. Only working relationship with us singles, intimate knowledge of our individual situations and, most importantly, the love and grace of Christ can lead us into romance with healthy expectations and practices. We don't need more books, we need older, experienced believers investing in us.
That's what the Church is, anyway: a complex body of relationships, not a bookshelf of philosophies. View all 3 comments. Nov 29, emilie. I know no one's going to read my review, but I've just been itching to write it.
I have a feeling it will turn into a long rambling session since I feel pretty strongly about this subject. I know I'm just another young adult who wasn't fond of this book, so my critique is probably insignificant among the sea of others out there. I know that I'm just "young and foolish" and how could I ever question this book's teachings-everyone should do it!
Everyone who has ever followed what Joshua Harris I know no one's going to read my review, but I've just been itching to write it. Everyone who has ever followed what Joshua Harris says has wonderful results and a lifelong, heavenly marriage, right?
As someone who had to read this in my junior year of high school I was homeschoole I don't necessarily believe that. Sure, there are some couples who did the whole courtship thing and ended up marrying the love of their life. As long as they're truly happy, who am I to tell them what they should have done? I just don't believe courtship works for everyone. This is what I think: let teenagers be teenagers.
Jul 29, Harris previously renounced his support of "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" in He cancelled the publishing of his book, which had sold over million copies, writing in an op-ed for USA TODAY that Author: Joshua Bote. July 30, Copies of the bestseller "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" and its sequel, "Boy Meets Girl" probably still sit on the shelf at my parents' home. Along with, . Jul 27, In , Joshua Harris's book "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" ushered thousands of young evangelicals into purity culture. Two decades Author: Liz Lenz.
They're not impure if they hold hands. They don't suddenly lose their innocence if they have crushes. They're not damaged goods for kissing their boyfriend or girlfriend. They're not immoral if they do have a boyfriend or girlfriend in the first place. Nearly everyone who is a strong advocate for courtship is all like, "But you'll regret your stupid choices one day. Guard your heart! Never experiencing that part of being a teenager. I will never know what it's like.
Maybe deep down, I'm still one of those girls who is desperate or maybe I'm just being sentimental. But honestly, don't take those years for granted. I'm not saying that teenagers should be reckless and do everything on a whim. Not at all. Logic and common sense should obviously be valued. I simply believe that keeping your heart under lock and key at all times is a terrible-possibly damaging-idea. Besides, C. Lewis said "to love at all is to be vulnerable. Being alive. If you do break up with your significant other and feel sad for awhile, that's just part of life!
It won't be unbearable and you will get through it. Life is all about discovery, full of warmth and rawness and giving and taking and pouring yourself out!
It is impossible to avoid pain in life, and shielding yourself from "getting hurt" by romantic relationships is only going to increase your fear of the world. I'm going to try to word this in a way that makes sense, but which sounds better to you Because I have heard stories about the latter. A lot of stories. All because of this book.
It can definitely happen, and courtship champions should stop acting as though it is impossible. Their method isn't perfect either.
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Nothing in life is perfect. Anyway, I'm sure I have bored you quite enough. On with the book. I've only read it once and that was a few years ago, and would rather not read it again. From what I remember, his writing style was extremely repetitive and he repeated the same ideas overand overand over again. I literally had to take a break after reading a few pages at a time. I find that passage ridiculous. Was he implying that our hearts are only capable of so much love before they crash and burn?
You love your family, you love your friends, and you love your pets. You love certain musicians, artists and writers. I'm sure that loving more people, whether they'll become part of your past or stay with you for a long time, is NOT going to make you unworthy or undesirable. A loving heart is a truly beautiful thing. If you actually believe that, it will show, trust me.
I know that not everyone who is for courtship thinks like that, but quite a few of them do. If you have that mindset, how will any guy or girl be able to approach you and want to start a relationship with you in the first place? Think about it. That's just the short version of all my thoughts.
If I go on too much longer, my fingers won't be able to type for a while. Like I mentioned near the beginning, if couples who courted are truly happy that they did itkudos to them.
Josh Harris had good intentions, but I suspect this book has done more damage than good. So, in summary: I'm tired of Christians who practice courtship treating this book like it's the pinnacle of nonfiction, and homeschooling parents since these beliefs are the norm in many homeschool circles must stop micromanaging their adult children's lives.
It's just wrong on so many levels.
On his website, he is now accepting stories from IKDG readers on how it affected their lives. Old news, I know, but it's a step and I can't help but feel proud of him for sincerely trying to understand. Jun 22, Donita Luz rated it really liked it Shelves: a-must-havecool-authorfriend-recommendationrea non-fictionchristians. By inflating the importance of feelings, we neglect the impt of putting love in action.
When we evaluate the quality of our love for someone else simply by our own emotional fulfillment, we are being selfish.
Kiss dating goodbye. Dating: Isn't there a better way? I Kissed Dating Goodbye suggests there is. Reorder your romantic life in the light of God's Word and find more fulfillment than a date could ever give a life of sincere love, true purity, and purposeful singleness. That is the promise and the premise behind Joshua Harris' new book I Kissed /5.
Feelings governed them, and finally, when the feelings ended, so did their relationship. It was a bit "A relationship based solely on physical attraction and romantic feelings will last only as long as the feelings last. It was a bit judgemental and one-sided for me I'm not being angry or offended, I'm just merely stating my observations note that I'm not a Christian as well. It was the author's own conviction and commitment. But what made me like this book was the fact that it wasn't trying to force those information down our throats.
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It was always trying to pose questions and the possibility of what can happen for certain things that happen in our life. I Kissed Dating Goodbye isn't all about dating and love.
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There were talks of impurity which we might all agree that society doesn't see important in relationship anymore. It teaches us the necessity of break-up which we all know is hard. There's a good chance they won't understand at first or will think you're making up excuse for bringing a relationship to an end. Don't try to argue with them to prove a point. Overall, it's a good read and if you're open-minded on other's religions, this is still a highly recommended book for everyone.
Oct 28, Kacey rated it did not like it Shelves: non-fiction. Coming from a happily married woman, I found this to be a stupid composition that follows a typical Christian formula of twisting Scripture to suit the point the author wants to make. Common sense, rather than blowing up your every state of being into assuring yourself of your godliness, will get you further in my opinion. Only made a splash because it was written by a young, attractive male who claimed to have quit dating for good.
Don't listen to me, though, read it Coming from a happily married woman, I found this to be a stupid composition that follows a typical Christian formula of twisting Scripture to suit the point the author wants to make.
Don't listen to me, though, read it for yourself and make up your own mind- unlike the author would have you do. Apr 13, Jenny Reading Envy added it Shelves: read-long-ago. Bull honkey.
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This philosophy destroys intimacy and feeds the guilt culture that is overly a part of modern Christian families. Zero stars. View all 7 comments. I read this book when I was a broken-hearted nineteen-year-old. At the time the idea of kissing dating goodbye and doing it in the name of God seemed like a grand idea. I think it was largely because I had no dates to kiss goodbye, so it gave me some noble reason to beyond the fact that girls didn't like me and the fact that despite my liking them I was terrified of them.
I think Harris has some very valid points as best as I can remember, but they are a bit extreme and maybe even unrealistic.
Anytime you set up a system of thought like that it can lead to feelings of guilt and legalism. I am prone to that sort of thing anyway, and I definitely dealt with it after trying my hardest to adopt the ideas in this book. If would feel guilty if I just liked a girl. In some way, I'm thankful that I went through this time in my life because I do think it has balanced out and saved me from just randomly chasing after girls for the fun of it.
On the other hand, I don't know that I would have ever done that anyway. I think this book is good for high school kids, but it's probably not very practical once you get older. I saw Joshua Harris speak a few years ago, and I knew it would be really chessy and youth groupy. But you know what? It wasn't. He was a very good speaker, and everything he said was solid and scripturally sound.
Oh, and he didn't talk about dating. Jul 31, Kierstyn Elisabeth rated it did not like it. I desperately tried to enjoy it, understand it in entirety, and implement all of its concepts into my life. I could not do so. I have been raised Christian and have accepted the faith as my own these past few years. I am completely in love with Jesus Christ and I believe the Bible with all of my heart.
My friend, who loaned me the book, adored it and uses it as the manual for her romantic life.
My mother could not have been more pleased that I was reading it. I did not appreciate it for the most part. I dated a lot. And I had a blast doing it.
I only dated guys who could, yes, be potential marriage partners-God-loving, hilarious, attractive, intelligent guys-but I did it because first and foremost we were friends and second: it was fun! I went hiking, bowling, skating, to the movies, and many other fun activities with guys sometimes in a group and sometimes not. I am OK haha. I came out fine. If you end a courtship, and you are seriously thinking about marriage, your heart would get broken too.
My friendship with my best friend a girl ended in high school, and crushed me ten times more than any breakup I had with a guy. Relationships with ANYONE, of any means, are risk, and instead of trying to avoid that risk by following rules, we should embrace them and learn from each other.
We should approach any decision we make with care and caution. To be smart about any relationship we pursue is important. But I think everyone is uniquely and wonderfully created by God, so different things work for different people. Ok, tell that to the people who fell in love in high school and have lasting, happy marriages today.
And is it really so black and white that we should completely eliminate an entire facet of our lives until a certain time just to avoid pain? Harris thinks so. I do not. In this book Joshua Harris tells you to, as the title suggests, to kiss dating goodbye, suggesting that here is a better way to approach romance than simple "dating" could ever provide. He urges you to ask yourself "what is your motivation in relationships, pleasing yourself or serving others? This book does not say In this book Joshua Harris tells you to, as the title suggests, to kiss dating goodbye, suggesting that here is a better way to approach romance than simple "dating" could ever provide.
This book does not say that dating is sinful and explains that rejecting typical dating does not mean that you'll never spend time alone with a guy or girl. Under his suggestions for the many different reasons to read this book he suggests it if you: 1. You just got out of a bad relationship, and you don't want to be hurt again.
Not dating sounds like a great idea.